See also the Los Angeles Times, the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner and the Long Beach Press-Telegram for February 25, 1942. If the slant angle of the beam was less than 30 degrees then the calculated sizes would have been larger. What would happen? Thus at 1000 ft the diameter would be about 25 ft. Of course, the beam is not uniformly bright across its diameter, so the effective diameter might be closer to 20 feet. At the time, we were convinced that it was a “Jap” reconnaissance plane, and that L.A. might be due for a major air-raid in the near future. “In view of the considerable public excitement and confusion caused by yesterday morning’s supposed enemy air raid over this area and its spectacular official accompaniments, it seems to The Times that more specific public information should be forthcoming from government sources on the subject, if only to clarify their own conflicting statements about it.”“According to the Associated Press, Secretary Knox intimated that reports of enemy air activity in the Pacific Coastal Region might be due largely to ‘jittery nerves.’ Whose nerves, Mr. Knox? But that of course never happened. LeBron Gets 28, Lakers Hold Off Bulls 117-115 Without DavisLeBron James had 28 points, seven rebounds and seven assists, and the Los Angeles … I’m reading through it all now, One of my favorite events! He ordered my mother to take my baby sisters to the underground projection room—our house was heavily supplied with Hollywood paraphernalia—while he and I went out onto the upstairs balcony.”“What a scene! Thousand of southern Californians were an hour or more late to their jobs. Always excellent content. Eltermann described the searchlight as being 5 ft in diameter and with a divergence of about 1.25 degrees or about 20 milliradians. ), THE STORY, AS REPORTED IN VARIOUS SOURCES. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, **The conspiracy subreddit is a thinking ground. The … As early as the 1970s, the idea that an extraterrestrial invasion was responsible for setting off the Battle of Los Angeles began to circulate in the UFO community. Sheriff’s Capt. Rumors of Planes Downed SpikedPolice ran down several reports that planes had been shot down, but said all were false alarms. Anti-aircraft fire was so heavy we could not hear the motors of the planes.”. We hope to challenge issues which have captured the public’s imagination, from JFK and UFOs to 9/11. The unknown alien species are a caste-based species who launched a surprise planet-wide invasion on Earth, most likely motivated by a need for a new home or a colony. Today’s vaccinations were administered at Fire Who had such technology and resources to create such an indestructible atmospheric scanning device ? McClelland said, “I watched what was described as the second wave of planes from atop the seven-story Long Beach City Hall. Note: Eltermann was the author of the infamous Project Twinkle Report in November, 1951, which ignored or “covered up” or, at the very least, misrepresented, the White Sands movie film that proved unidentified objects were flying around. If anyone has further information on this event, please contact me through this web site. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. I’d expect a mixed force of regular Army, Marines, National Guard, and Reserves to be assembled with the intent of denying the Japanese the ability to move, although destroying them will depend on resource availability and equipment. Battle: L.A. had a fantastic trailer!!! We then went to our south-facing kitchen and porch windows to observe the action where it culminated in the south. Long Beach Police Chief J.H. If we knew the distance of the camera from the beam convergence and the focal length of the camera we could calculate the approximate size. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. When daylight and the all-clear signal came, Long Beach took on the appearance of a huge Easter egg-hunt. http://brumac.8k.com/WhiteSandsProof/WhiteSandsProof.html, The Battle of Los Angeles, 1942” by Terrenz Sword. More posts from the HistoryWhatIf community. They seemed to be completely oblivious and impervious to the shells exploding around them. If at 2000 ft the calculation yields D = 45 ft and W = 90 ft. One estimate of the height of the object was 8,000 ft. For a 30 degree slant angle of the beam from ground level up to 8,000 ft the distance along the beam would be about 8,000/sin 30 = 16,000 ft. Three Japanese, two men and a woman, were seized at the beach city of Venice on suspicion of signaling with flashlights near the pier. When brightness reduction and increasing contrast were applied it reveals what appears to be a winged angel of light. The beams are quite bright before they reach the “object” and zero or nearly zero afterward. The public’s or the Army’s?”. All newspaper quotes taken from “The Battle of Los Angeles, 1942” by Terrenz Sword, which appeared in Unsolved UFO Sightings, Spring 1996 issue, pages 57 through 62. I was surprised in the days that followed to discover that with all that aggressive firepower there was no evidence that we had brought anything down.I lived on Virginia Road, a half block south of West Adams Boulevard and one-quarter mile south of what is now the Interstate 10 Santa Monica Freeway; about 5.5 miles southwest of what is now the Los Angeles Civic Center; and approximately 10.5 miles due east of the Pacific coastline of Santa Monica.We were looking in a westward direction from our large living room bay window which gave us an unobstructed panorama of view facing the northwest, west and southwest. IF this is so, i.e., if the print image is well saturated, no amount of analysis will “dig out” the totality of brightness information (variations in the high brightness levels) contained within the negative. Observers lent some credence to the blimp theory by pointing out that the object required nearly thirty minutes to travel 20 or 25 miles-far slower then an airplane. If there was a lot of smoke swirling around the volume of air illuminated by the beams, I would expect to see variations in bream brightness (brighter where there was smoke). LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) – A fire erupted at a home in the Hollywood Hills early Friday morning. The Battle of Los Angeles was an incident on February 24-25, 1942 where a stray weather balloon or alien ship depending on how you view things was misidentified as a Japanese aircraft. Rule 2 does not apply when replying to this stickied comment. What fabric and metals in the 40's was developed to tank several hundred-thousands of rounds of AA gun fire repeatedly and not be downed ? 1 Conspiracy 2 Timeline 3 Cover Up 4 Aftermath 5 UFO related Events of Pearl Harbor having happened just three months prior put the US military, outfitted in Los Angeles, on high alert. While my father went about his air-raid warden duties, my late mother and I watched the glowing object, which was caught in the glare of searchlights from both Palos Verdes and Malibu/Pacific/Palisades and surrounded by the puffs of ineffectual anti-aircraft fire, as it slowly flew across the ocean from northwest to southeast. Anti-aircraft guns fired steadily for two minute periods, were silent for about 45 seconds, and continued that routine for nearly a half an hour. There was a period of silence following that, then the thumping of antiaircraft fire. That is, the variations are consistent with each beam getting dimmer as it travels away from the searchlight. Shooting at the aerial intruders were gunners of the 65th Coast Artillery (Anti-Aircraft) Regiment in Inglewood and the 205th Anti-Aircraft Regiment based in Santa Monica. A garage door was ripped off in a Los Angeles residential district and fragments shattered windows and tore into a bed where a few moments before Miss Blanch Sedgewick and her niece, Josie Duffy had been sleeping. Hood, local chief, said, “at the request of Army authorities we have nothing to say.”. Los Angeles doused its lights first, at 2:25 a.m.. San Diego, just 17 miles from the border did not receive its lights out order until 3:05 a.m. First we have the print as provided by Frank Warren: Sometimes it is helpful to see a negative. Hence if the object were 1000 ft from the projection lens it was about 2 x 25 = 50 ft wide. It is theorized that they are invading for Earth's liquid water. There may well be information on the shape of the “object” which is not discernible from the print because apparently the exposure level of the “object” is quite high and so the image may be well into the range of brightness saturation of the print. God I love you, Banana. During the initial invasion, they used an orbital insertion, mistaken for a cluster of meteors, to deploy their forces. With Nia Peeples, Kel Mitchell, Dylan Vox, Theresa June-Tao. It’s likely that the regulars and Marines (especially armored units) do the bulk of the offensive work. (CBSLA) The blaze broke out at … Relayed by the Southern California sector office in Pasadena, the second statement read:“The aircraft which caused the blackout in the Los Angeles area for several hours this a.m. have not been identified.”Insistence from official quarters that the alarm was real came as hundreds of thousands of citizens who heard and saw the activity spread countless varying stories of the episode. **Our intentions are aimed towards a fairer, more transparent world and a better future for everyone. No bombs were dropped and no airplanes shot down and, miraculously in terms of the tons of missiles hurled aloft, only two persons were reported wounded by falling shell fragments. Battle of Los Angeles was the conspiracy to coverup foreign aerial surveillance being conducted over Los Angeles in 1942. It protrudes upward at some angle, probably not the angle in the photo. Jan. 8, 2020. Great read. With Aaron Eckhart, Michelle Rodriguez, Bridget Moynahan, Ramon Rodriguez. Suppose the elevation angle were 30 degrees. See also the Los Angeles Times, the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner and the Long Beach Press-Telegram for February 25, 1942. I was eight-years-old at the time, and my parents lived at 2500 Strand in Hermosa Beach, right on the beach. A squad of U.S. Marines becomes the last line of defense against a … A Santa Monica bomb squad was dispatched to remove an unexploded anti-aircraft shell in a driveway there. Thank you for putting so much effort into this post. This is a discussion of the photographic print obtained by Frank Warren which was made from the original negative. Wailing air raid sirens at 2:25 a.m. awakened most of the metropolitan’s three million citizens. The City received 3,200 Moderna vaccines for its initial distribution for first respondersLOS ANGELES — Los Angeles firefighters and paramedics became the City’s first frontline workers to receive the COVID-19 vaccine today — part of the supply of 3,200 Moderna doses to be administered in this initial phase of vaccinations. The story of the Battle of Los Angeles near the start of WWII as told by newspapers and witnesses from several sources follows the photo analysis. ), (NOTE: if you found this photo-analysis interesting you may want to check out the analyses of other photo cases at http://brumac.8k.com. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Conversely, if the slant angle was greater the calculated sizes would have been smaller. Based on the above calculations, and realizing that a much better estimate could be made if we had more accurate information on the spotlights, camera, etc., I would hazard a guess that the width of the illuminated “object” is on the order of 100 ft or more in size. Los Angeles comedian Joe Luna died last week from COVID-19, just days after being hospitalized and documenting his battle on social media. We only saw one object, not several as some witnesses later reported. The Battle of Los Angeles was an incident on February 24-25, 1942 where a stray weather balloon or alien ship depending on how you view things was misidentified as a Japanese aircraft. In Los Angeles, 3,000 first- and second-generation Japanese residents of a fishing village on Terminal Island were the first West Coasters taken into custody. Others held on similar charges were Walter E. Van Der Linden, Norwalk dairy man, accused of failing to darken his milking barns, and Giovanni Ghigo, 57, nabbed while driving to market with a truckload of flowers. We thus had a grandstand seat. A day prior, on February 23, 1942, Japanese submarine I-17 shelled an oil refinery near Santa Barbara. Quantum Of Solace 2008 Movie . At 2:15 AM Los Angeles area anti-aircraft batteries were put on Green Alert --- ready to fire --- and at 2:21 AM the regional controller ordered a blackout. There were no reports of any attempt to bomb southern California from the air although many war-vital factories, shipyards and other defense industries were on the route the object followed. LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) – A new, more contagious variant of COVID-19 that was first detected in the United Kingdom has been identified in Southern California, officials announced Wednesday. No bombs were dropped and no planes were shot down during the anti-aircraft firing in the Los Angeles area, the western defense command said in San Francisco. Much of the firing appeared to come from the vicinity of aircraft plants along the coastal area of Santa Monica, Inglewood, Southwest Los Angeles, and Long Beach. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The (UFO) group passed along from one battery of searchlights to another, and under fire from the anti-aircraft guns, flew from the direction of Redondo Beach and Inglewood on the land side of Fort MacArthur, and continued toward Santa Ana and Huntington Beach. These sources said inability to obtain fire proof helium caused discarding of such plans. City Blacked Out For HoursThe city was blacked out from 2:25 to 7:21 am after an earlier yellow alert at 7:18 pm was called off at 10:23 pm. Respect other views and opinions, and keep an open mind. Would the U.S. military be able to repel the attack? In January 1942 US forces engaged an unidentified flying object above Los Angeles. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. This is typically 1, but they may have pushed the film to a higher gamma to get faint images. Tracer bullets and exploding shells lit the heavens. It headed inland over Redondo Beach, a couple of miles to the south of our vantage point, and eventually disappeared over the eastern end of the Palos Verdes hills, what’s today called Rancho Palos Verdes. It appeared to be a very bright orb of light. Just thought I’d let you know that I was an eyewitness to the event back in February of 1942. Awesome job man. However, certainly a solid metallic object would be sufficient to block the beams. The spectacular anti-aircraft barrage came after the 14th Interceptor Command ordered the blackout when strange craft were reported over the coastline. The recapture of Hawaii is probably the next major goal for the US. Ernest Sichler said Harada, driving to the market with a load of cauliflower, refused to extinguish his truck lights. Henry B. Ayers, 63-year-old state guardsman, died at the wheel of an ammunition truck during the black-out. I did not see any planes but the younger men with me said they could. The u/BattleofLosAngeles community on Reddit. A few minutes later they were treated to a gigantic Fourth-of-July-like display as huge searchlights flashed along a 10-mile front to the south, converging on a single spot high in the sky. Tracers streamed upward. Hence the horizontal width of the beam, W, (not perpendicular to the beam axis) would be W = D/sin (angle of elevation) = D/sin(30) = 2D for the assumed 30 degree elevation angle. The Battle of Los Angeles, also known as the Great Los Angeles Air Raid, is the name given by contemporary sources to a rumored attack on the mainland United States by Japan and the subsequent anti-aircraft artillery barrage which took place from late 24 February to early 25 February 1942, over Los Angeles, California. As it was, attacking Hawaii was already at the extreme limit of Japanese logistics. Also, http://brumac.8k.com/WhiteSandsProof/WhiteSandsProof.html]. Army intelligence, although uncommunicative, scoffed at reports of civilian observers that as many as 200 planes were over the area. Crews battle a Hollywood Hills house fire. Kiddies and even grown-ups scrambled through the streets and vacant lots, picking up and proudly comparing chunks of shrapnel fragments as if they were the most prized possession they owned. Los Angeles firefighters battle a suspected arson fire on Dec. 19, 2020, at a church at 9165 Woodman Ave. in Panorama City, one of five fires they fought that night at … I'm talking an invasion fleet shelling the coastline as troops land from San Jose to Long Beach. And even if it was a weather balloon. Aaron Donald of … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Aaron Eckhart, who played Staff Sergeant Michael Nantz in the film, has talked about the possibility of a sequel, however.. Interview 1 [edit | edit source]. Unless they’d also occupied and invested Hawaii as an army depot and naval base, the west coast would be a fantasy. “Cities in the Los Angeles area were blacked out at 2:25 a.m. today on orders from the fourth interceptor command when unidentified aircraft were reported in the area,” the western defense command said.“Although reports are conflicting and every effort is being made to ascertain the facts, it is clear that no bombs were dropped and no planes were shot down.”“There was a considerable amount of anti-aircraft firing. It’s unlikely they are able to bring the size force necessary to both resist an American counterattack on land as well as the predictable culling of their supply ships by American submarines and surface vessels. Woah, any scientific explanation for that video? Object Disappears Over Signal HillObservers said the object appeared to be 8000 ft or higher. ** My family and I observed the entire episode through the large bay window of our home facing west. There were no reports of dropping bombs, but several instances of damaged property from anti-aircraft shells. There are variations, but they are uniform and agree with the distance (from the searchlight) and width of the beam. Later on, we all expected “them,” that is, the Military, to tell us what was really up there after the war. Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. Powerful searchlights from countless stations stabbed the sky with brilliant probing fingers while anti-aircraft batteries dotted the heavens with beautiful, if sinister, orange bursts of shrapnel. We're here to explore alternate history scenarios in interesting ways. In the next few hours they would fire over 1,400 shells at an unidentified, slow- moving object in the sky over Los Angeles that looked like a blimp, or a balloon.”, Author Ralph Blum, who was a nine-year-old boy at the time, wrote that he thought “the Japanese were bombing Beverly Hills.”, “There were sirens, searchlights, even antiaircraft guns blamming away into the skies over Los Angeles. I don’t know the film speed or the f stop of the camera. He added that “ none have been found and a very wide reconnaissance has been carried on.”. This requires knowing what portion of the city the object was over, where the cameraman was, and the altitude of the “object.” An alternative method is to estimate the diameter of a spotlight beam at some distance from the spotlight and use that width as a reference size. The following are excerpts from the primary front page story of the LA Times on February 26th. Given the American ability to move ships through the Panama Canal as well as the naval bases on the west coast, Japan will be facing an enemy on their home turf who can replenish a navy and keep them working more or less indefinitely. The northwest sky was lit up with bursting shells and searchlights. Army Gunners Fire At UFOs Over Los AngelesCourtesy UFO ROUNDUPVolume 3, Number 8February 22, 1998Editor Joseph TrainorOn Wednesday, February 25, 1942, at precisely 2 a.m., diners at the trendy Trocadero Club in Hollywood were startled when the lights winked out and air raid sirens began to sound throughout greater Los Angeles. The whole incident last, at least from our perspective, lasted about half an hour, though we didn’t time it. The species was considered by the humans to be incredibly intelligent. Above all else, we respect everyone's opinions and ALL religious beliefs and creeds. Cookies help us deliver our Services. solid body?) 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